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• Boycott SC Johnson, Progressive Insurance,Geico,Procter&Gamble and Nexus Lexis!All attacking conservative values & caving 2 statists! #tcot #
• @natthedem Did you even read his Op-Ed? You're an idiot. in reply to natthedem #
• Support @wholefoods and John Mackey for standing up for conservative values and common sense! #tcot #
• @Bill_Lenner No, best way 2 kill them is 2 destroy thr will & ability 2 take care of themselves.Which is wht the proposed Med Sys does #tcot in reply to Bill_Lenner #
• Socialists fear individual empowerment b/c 1-They R 2 stupid 2 make thr own decisions or 2-They wnt 2 make the decisions 4 others #tcot #
• @joshmcadams Have U read Mackey's Op-Ed? wht part of it do U disagree w/? Tort Reform? Portable insurance? Cost transparency? #tcot in reply to joshmcadams #
• @canucknurse Have U read Mackey's Op-Ed? wht part of it do U disagree w/? Tort Reform? Portable insurance? Cost transparency? #tcot in reply to canucknurse #
• @HoffmaniaDotCom Have U read Mackey's Op-Ed? wht part of it do U disagree w/? Tort Reform? Portable insurance? Cost transparency? #tcot in reply to HoffmaniaDotCom #
• @g_fox Have U read Mackey's Op-Ed? wht part of it do U disagree w/? Tort Reform? Portable insurance? Cost transparency? #tcot in reply to g_fox #
• @MS0M303 Have U read Mackey's Op-Ed? wht part of it do U disagree w/? Tort Reform? Portable insurance? Cost transparency? #tcot in reply to MS0M303 #
• @partytildawn Have U read Mackey's Op-Ed? wht part of it do U disagree w/? Tort Reform? Portable insurance? Cost transparency? #tcot in reply to partytildawn #
• @canucknurse Actually, I consider the waiting lists flaws, too. Does that discount his suggestions? Does it discredit my opinions? #tcot in reply to canucknurse #
• @canucknurse My sister had a baby in Toronto (she paid since she was not a citizen) and the care was horrific. R u in a city or rural? #tcot in reply to canucknurse #
• @cat_1012000 Some good responses, some good RT, but no facts or specifics in any of the arguments. Typical in reply to cat_1012000 #
• @canucknurse So if collective funding of services whr decisions R made by gov't instead of individuals isn't socialism, wht is it? #tcot in reply to canucknurse #
• @canucknurse I wasn't talking about Canada. I was talking about proposed reform here. #tcot in reply to canucknurse #
• @canucknurse Besides, MDs can make any treatment decision they want, that doesn't mean that the are going to get paid for it. #tcot in reply to canucknurse #
• @canucknurse Yes, but she has the rt 2 leave the HMO & get it done elsewhere. Price is the rationing agent instead of Gov't regulation #tcot in reply to canucknurse #
• @canucknurse We wr talking abt Mackey's op-ed didn't realize the scope had narrowed 2 just Canada. All 8 of his suggestions were valid #tcot in reply to canucknurse #
• @canucknurse That was her choice. Private insurance is no more out of reach than a car payment, but most people choose that expense. #tcot in reply to canucknurse #
• @canucknurse Cash based care is way more affordable anyway, which is why a high deductible plan is effectiive. #tcot in reply to canucknurse #
• @canucknurse Enjoyed the conversation. in reply to canucknurse #
• @canucknurse that # is dishonest as proven by heritage foundation – many of those choose 2 save the $, many R illegal aliens. #tcot in reply to canucknurse #
• @canucknurse Teach ppl from early age 2 budget 4 healtcare lk they budget 4 a car payment. Individual empowerment and responsibility. #tcot in reply to canucknurse #
• @canucknurse Maybe we'll continue this another day in reply to canucknurse #
• RT @bzaz: Bill&Melinda Gates Foundation sells off most healthcare, pharma holdings http://tinyurl.com/n864dd #tcot >Harbinger of bad things #
• @jfelectron No they only expect the wealthy to fund it…at first…Obama has repeatedly said his goal is a single payer system. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron funding decisions, and therefore TREATMENT decisions will be made by bureaucrats. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron The wealthy will pay for the uninsured poor. That is wealth redistribution, and that highly resembles socialism. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron wht if I dont wnt the $$ I earn 2 B used like that? Besides, programs that follow that model R alrdy in the red. in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Because, of course, France is a shining example of a stability and national pride! http://bit.ly/2FhM52 in reply to jfelectron #
• @danielspengies And just who did they steal it from? I'm wealthy by some peoples standards, and I have worked hard for what I have. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies No, forcing one person to work for anothers benefit is indentured servitude. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies No, but being a lazy idiot doesn't give a person the right to take resources from someone who produces them. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies So anyone who has evr sold their labor 2 sum1 else has bn exploited? So 99% of humans R 2 stupid 2 take care of themselves? in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Define wealth. So what is the means of deciding value in a world of socialism? And who decides the need? in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Saying the wealthy "exploit" people is how socialists justify stealing from them. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies You only think they need you. If no one produces, there is nothing for those who refuse to work to steal. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Again, who decides who gets the resources in your utopia? You? in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies So if I know how to grow food, I owe it to those who don't to provide it to them? What do I get in return? in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies What if I refuse to produce the food? in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies So your argument is that no individual has value, and only the gov't is qualified to distribute resources fairly? in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies regulated by who? Your plan displaces power from those who know how to produce in favor of those who know how to get votes. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies So those that produce have no say in how the fruit of their labor is used? Why would I continue to produce? in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies If wealth doesn't determine the mechanism of distribution, and the gov't doesn't what does? Never said a thing abt ussr in reply to danielspengies #
• So if I know how to make food, and my neighbor gets half for doing nothing in return, isn't he exploiting me? #
• @danielspengies Then why aren't they doing it without the benefit of an employer already? in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies So trading someones labor for money is exploitation, but taking half of my food, for nothing in return, is not exploitation. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies since wealth is defined as access to resources, and if you don't have to work to access those resources, why would any1 work in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Capitalism merely encourages the individual to maximize their value in exchange for more resources. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies The same ppl who now work only as much as needed 2 fill their basic needs wouldn't work at all if those needs wr met anyway in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies But if the work they do has no value to society, why should they be rewarded for it? in reply to danielspengies #
• you can paint all the flowery pics of socialism u want, but in reality it results in exploitation, hunger, violence, and the loss of freedom #
• @danielspengies Socialism doesn't work specifically because one persons definition of need is different than the next. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies All of my employees have their basic needs met. R relationship is of mutual benefit. If it wasn't they wld work elsewhere in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies if it is universal, then define it? How much water? How much food? How much fuel? Heat? Electricity? Who decides? in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies So the person who risked their home & savings 2 build a company has no value? If I hadn't done that, who wld they work 4? in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Yes! How much they get paid is based on their VALUE to the company. If they feel undervalued, they leave me. in reply to danielspengies #
• No, the market determines the wages. If I pay to little, no one would work for me. If I pay too much, the business fails. #
• You are the one who said that labor is the value of the company, if that is the case I couldn't survive if they chose to leave. #
• So the years that I spent running the business on my own, wrkng 365 days a year, dosnt entitle me 2 more than the new unskilled guy? #
• @danielspengies If the gov't takes what I produce, and I have no say, then I am a slave. An employee can sell his labor to some1 else. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies If I produce product, which I trade for money, and they take it away from me in taxes, they are taking away what I produce in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Or, they could take their superior value, & srt their own company 2 compete w/ mine & put my unethical ass out of business in reply to danielspengies #
• @LaBrujaRoja U'll have 2 ask the ppl who choose 2 stay at her hotels, buy her handbags or perfume, or read the ads in the columns abt her in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja If they are that valuable, then companies should be scrambling to hire them away from my business. in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja ive an employee who has missed 3 shifts in 4 wks.Is she as valuable as the person who missed time at home 2 work in her place in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja someone gives that status value. in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja sum ppls value is in their labor, sum in their ideas, sum simply b/c of how they look.Either way,they trade that value4 wealth. in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja Wow, ridicule. I'm impressed. How altruistic of you. in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja Socialists R merely ppl who dont rate their value above average, so they turn 2 collectivism 2 increase their own wealth. in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja You merely want to trade a system that "exploits" labor for one that "exploits" knowledge. How is that fair? in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• RT @LaBrujaRoja: 2 @wisdomworld And they're HER hotels? Are you 12? Chain was founded by her grandfather (great-grandfather?) no her, NO … #
• @LaBrujaRoja What do you do for a living? in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja And no, I don't think she design that stuff. She markets her identity. That is her value. If it had no value, no one would buy in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja Pissed that society doesn't rate their value as what its worth, or what they wish or think its worth? in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja Value is determined by needs and wants, and if no one wants what you offer, you should re-evaluate what you offer and adjust. in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja I have the knowledge to create wealth. You want to exploit my knowledge to create that wealth in order to fund your needs. in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja peopel cn ensure that they have a decent qualty of life by tkng the responsibility 2 make sure that they have value others need in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• Or they can let society (the gov't) determine their value and take whatever society chooses to give them #
• In a capitalist society, the individual determines their own needs and chooses whether or not they have the value to obtain them. #
• @LaBrujaRoja In a capitalist society, the individual determines their own needs & chooses whether or not they have the value 2 obtain them. in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja If they don't they can change their skill set and change their value. in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• When collective society determines the individuals value, their is no need, desire, or ability to ever increase that value. #
• @LaBrujaRoja wht is wrong w/ that? I own a business that sells million$ & I clean public bathrooms every day. It makes my business better in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja therefore, it increases the value of my business, and me, to my customers which allows me to trade that value for wealth in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja Removed?ive opened presents under the tree hoping 2 find food.That created desire.That spurred me 2 find value in myself in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• I turned that value in2 wealth. ive fifteen employees that benefit from that wealth, in addition 2 the employees of dozens of suppliers. #
• @LaBrujaRoja I turned that value in2 wealth.fifteen employees benefit from that wealth, in addition 2 the employees of dozens of suppliers. in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja I don't know a single businessman who hasn't helped many others meet their basic needs. How is that removed? in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja wht socialists R typically afraid of is sum1 who has absolute faith in themselves.That person extends that faith 2 all humanity in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja Sorry to have disturbed you. I hope you can overcome whatever struggles you are facing. in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja No, like businessmen who were in those very situations and chose to do it better. Gov't enables that thievery, not capitalism. in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @LaBrujaRoja I have honestly enjoyed the debate. Maybe we can continue it sometime. For now, though, the pillow calls. in reply to LaBrujaRoja #
• @Mohner5 Have U read Mackey's Op-Ed? wht part of it do U disagree w/? Tort Reform? Portable insurance? Cost transparency? #tcot in reply to Mohner5 #
• @pjredd heh hehe hahaha hhhhahahahahahaha rotflmao hahaha Oh, sorry, was that my out loud voice? #tcot in reply to pjredd #
• @pjredd Wow.I'm impressed with the witty reply! I bow to your superior i-n-t-e-l-l-e-c-t-u-a-l capacity.cough cough stupid troll cough #tcot in reply to pjredd #
• @pjredd I am in awe of your mental prowess, and your ability to look past the lies Obama tells and still worship him unconditionally! #tcot in reply to pjredd #
• @danielspengies No, I am "okay" with the individual determining their own value. That includes the value of their life and health #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @jfelectron I pay for my own insurance, and I am happy with my healthcare. Why should a screaming minority be able to take that away? #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @danielspengies "lives in a fucking fantasy world" where if the government determines individual value, he'll suddenly have some #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @joshmcadams No, the point is that they dont control themselves. People should be 100% responsible for their own actions #tcot in reply to joshmcadams #
• @joshmcadams So U will boycott the business he works 4 endangering the jobs of 1000s, b/c U disagree w/ some of his ideas? Altruistic #tcot in reply to joshmcadams #
• @pjredd Good, just don't expect us on #tcot to believe that he has honesty and integrity. That kind of laughter can hurt. in reply to pjredd #
• @jfelectron So I'll have to pay for the public plan, via increased taxes AND my private plan. Nice. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron And you believe that? Do you think costs won't go up when people are forced out of their original ins. plans? #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @pjredd You are so good at this! Did you take Community Organizing classes from your Messiah when he was teaching the Alinsky method? #tcot in reply to pjredd #
• @joshmcadams Just looking for honest debate. If you can't handle that, I'll leave you alone. #
• @pjredd Nice link BTW. No stereotyping in your broad minded view of the world. #tcot in reply to pjredd #
• @jfelectron Provision in bill makes it illegal 4 insurer 2 write any new non conforming plan. I lose the rt 2 choose wht I pay 4. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @pjredd Do U evr have anything of value 2 say, or do U just go down the ingredients list on yr pkg of Kool-Aid & regurgitate it? #tcot in reply to pjredd #
• @jfelectron And you want to trade that for rationing based on collective decision. I don't want the collective to decide for me. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @pjredd @jfelectron The problem U have is that U need ppl lk me 2 make a UHP work. Ppl lk me, however, dont need U. Scares u. #tcot in reply to pjredd #
• @pjredd Your afraid of anyone who can live without you. It's sad really. It's the only fertilizer that socialism has ever had. #tcot in reply to pjredd #
• @pjredd U wish. The difference between us is, your pissed & yelling at the cmputr, & my laughter is real. U cnt handle it. #tcot in reply to pjredd #
• @canucknurse "We all agree that the system is imploding…things R more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize" http://bit.ly/WubTi #tcot in reply to canucknurse #
• @pjredd Your 12 yo niece could prob hold a discussion w/o resorting to name calling. You're hopeless. #tcot #
• @pjredd If that your way of saying "talk to the hand"? heheheh #tcot #
• @jfelectron This capitalist society has the highest individual rate of charitable giving in the world. in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron If I trade money for service, why am I obligated to give more at the end of that transaction? in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Every1 does have access 2 basic HC here. The argument here is who gets the bill.UHC doesnt promise access 2 extended care. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @danielspengies O, yr less greedy? U wnt 2 exploit ppl who produce wealth 2 support those that dont. No doubt yr 1 of the latter. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @jfelectron If it demands that 1 person work unwillingly 4 the sake of another, its not a human right, its indentured servitude #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @danielspengies That very same worker quit while waiting for the results of her drug test. Oh how valuable she was. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Had I not risked my life savings & worked the business myself for years, thr wouldn't B jobs 4 them in the 1st place #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @jfelectron I dont accept that the collective is who decides wht i'm obligated 2 provide. I wld rather let a free economic mrkt decide #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @danielspengies You assume. Truth is I am tempted to go back to doing it myself. Made just as much money, had a lot less headaches. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies I'm happy if someone tries to better themselves, just not at my unwilling expense. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies But if the collective decides how many hours I work, and how many hours everyone else works, that's better? #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies So yr argument is that I shld B unwillingly wrkng my ass off in order 2 support sum1 like U? I'd rather we both starve #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @jfelectron @danielspengies ultimately, if there is no reward for excelling, no one will excel. Socialism promotes mediocrity. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @danielspengies No ppl work 4 reward. $$ is only a medium of exchange 4 that reward whether its from the gov't or an employer #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies There is no racism in socialism? Germany? Russia? Give me a break! #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Which, if that is their choice, is great. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @jfelectron That isn't capitalism. That is fascism, and I think the tarp and other previous bailouts were horrible for our country. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @danielspengies wht U R saying is that U R a racist & dont think anyone from another ethnic background could succeed on their own #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @jfelectron No the recent boom/bust cycles were fueled by gov't intervention in natural economic cycles. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron I dont overlook that at all. I alrdy said that's gr8 if that is their own choice. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @danielspengies Only because people like you choose to see race first #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies U dont wnt a equal playing field, U wnt a scoreless playing field. U R afraid of failure, so U wnt 2 ban it #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @jfelectron The risk of failure came from govt interference in how they lent $$-Fannie & Freddie R examples of the danger of socialism #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @danielspengies As long as they don't make too much right? Then you want them smacked back down to your level. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @jfelectron Yes they should. But they shouldnt be held responsible for investments that the govt forces them to make #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @danielspengies Who determines "basic human needs"? And if you're going to take 90% of my income, why wouldnt I just go Galt? #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies You link to media matters? give me a break. Do you really think Soros gives 2 shits about equality? He wants POWER! #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @jfelectron And greedy pricks in the govt (frank,pelosi,stevens) enabled it and made it exponentially worse #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @danielspengies Capitalist societies have historically been much better at providing those needs that socialist societies. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @jfelectron term "predatory loaning" once again assumes that the individual is worthless. I read loan docs like those and passed. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron y dont U consider ppl tkng advantage of poor lending policy 2 B exploitation of the stockholders who funded the loans? #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron You mean like blaming a capitalist for selling something to a customer? #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron My argument is that the individual has personal responsibility too. You only seem to think the corporation does. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron And those same 'ignorant' people THOUGHT they were buying something they knew they couldnt afford. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron I rejected those same terms when I bought a house. Why should I be expected to suffer for the people who didn't? #tcot #
• @jfelectron Media Matters is funded by the Democracy Alliance which is funded by George Soros and his brother. Follow the money. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Both Naxi Germany and USSR began with the PROMISE of socialism, which opened the door to totalitarianism. Venezeula, Cuba..#tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @char74 Have U read Mackey's Op-Ed? wht part of it do U disagree w/? Tort Reform? Portable insurance? Cost transparency? #tcot in reply to char74 #
• @majortominor http://bit.ly/16wANl "Nazism, officially in German as National Socialism(Nationalsozialismus)"promised socialism gave fascism in reply to majortominor #
• @majortominor Marxism and Socialism aren't the same word. Original NAZI party was founded on a non-Marxist socialist platform. in reply to majortominor #
• @danielspengies Exactly…they promised socialism…they delivered totalitarianism. Like Russia, cuba, venezuela…and soon USA in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Yep, just like here. Every leader who promises socialism only wants power for themselves. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies http://bit.ly/19BUHp "producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government" in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Oh, YOUR definition is the right one. The difinition of "is" is "is", right? #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Nationalizing ANY industry is socialism. Butter it up all you want. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies None of which I agree with. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies As much as I'd luv 2 keep wasting yr time, i have an economy 2 contribute 2 & ppl 2 exploit early in the morning. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @sensible_person I haven't used that word. Subsidies devalue individual worth, and rewards poor economic decisions. #tcot in reply to sensible_person #
• @danielspengies Ah yes, when you can't win, ridicule. Alinsky wasn't lost on you. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies & we've determined that U R an under achieving race baiter who doesn't think any individual could fend 4 their self. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Maybe you can dream socialism into existence. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies How's that? Because you attacked my credibility every time I asked a tough question? I'm impressed with your skills. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies As I inferred, Alinsky would be proud. Too bad your too lazy to ever make a difference in the real world anyway. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @sensible_person I don't speak for the GOP, just for myself. in reply to sensible_person #
• @danielspengies My guess is you contribute nothing, or you wouldn't get so upset. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies ppl lk U NEED socialism b/c its the only way U will evr feel lk an equal. Just cant cut it w/out society's support. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies If they didn't show up tomorrow, my business would continue. If I didn't show up tomorrow, they'd be jobless and broke #tcot #
• @danielspengies You simply fear success, because you know you can't attain it without looting it from others. #
• @danielspengies put me U & all of my employees on a deserted island & in a month U'll have starved & my employees wld work 4 me again #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies My employees would be fed, and you would die hungry #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Wow, look at you calling names. Did you learn that in socialism school? You wouldn't survive a week off of welfare. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies You wouldn't know how to do either, that's why you need a collective to support you. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies is a disgusting pig of a ?man? who needs someone else to care about his own needs. Sad really. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @jfelectron thr is no such thing as honest socialism-It's nothing but exploitation of mediocrity so "intellectuals" can gain power #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron U mean the equitable lack of access. I know someone who lost his career because of UK waiting lines for healthcare #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron PhD in wht? Philosophy? Much education is useless. Most of the education system is designed 2 benefit itself, not society #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron I believe in VOLUNTARY community service. I've bet I've given more time & $$ to my community than you or @danielspengies #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron whts wrong w/ regulation by the free choice of consumers? I forget U dont believe individuals R capable of responsibility #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron No-regulation BY freedom of choice-Consumers cn choose not 2 do business w/ bad comp. Hence Mackeys sug. of transparency. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron So you are someone who makes a living off public funding who wants more public funding. Very altruistic. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron And did the volunteer work make you feel good about yourself? in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Everyone thinks their own cause is the 1 worth funding. Consumer demand is a better judge of wht shld B funded than gov't #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @badtux99 Your almost right. The number is actually less than 30%. Use real numbers if you want to win an argument. #tcot in reply to badtux99 #
• @badtux99 Same study also says that conservatives give about 30% more than liberals #tcot in reply to badtux99 #
• @jfelectron That is your problem. You think the ceo's that cnn exposes represent the entire corporate culture, and thats not true #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Just like I think that disgusting fleshbags like @danielspengies represent everything that socialists stand for. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @badtux99 All depends on who asks the questions & who reads the answers http://bit.ly/o5njd thr R lies, damned lies, & statistics hehe #tcot in reply to badtux99 #
• @jfelectron Problem is that wht U as a scientist believe R the rt things R not the same as wht I a blue collar business owner believes #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Difference is I dont expect U 2 spend $$ at my business but U expect me 2 spend $$ on yr social issues #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron By assuming that you know better what "the right things" are you assume that others are unable to do so themselves. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Which would lead me to think that you believe your priorities are superior to those of people like me. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Which comes back to my belief that the collective does NOT know whats best for the individual. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @Word_Bandit Have U read Mackey's Op-Ed? wht part of it do U disagree w/? Tort Reform? Portable insurance? Cost transparency? #tcot in reply to Word_Bandit #
• @alienated_one Have U read Mackey's Op-Ed? wht part of it do U disagree w/? Tort Reform? Portable insurance? Cost transparency? #tcot in reply to alienated_one #
• @jfelectron Business owners R not, but responsible individuals R a majority. Social programs replace their judgment w/ that of a board #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron If you can't recognize tongue in cheek sarcasm, how can I carry on a legitimate debate with you? in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron You're talking about the views of your minority overwhelming the views of my minority. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Taking from one person to give to another against the will of the former is not JUST. It ls THEFT. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Since 1986 Germany convenes annual commission 2 determine expenditures, & they R cutting back 2 contain skyrocketing costs #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Germany's highest earners still choose to pay penalties and opt-out because private care is better. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Constitution has some enumerated functions of fed gov't. Fund military, protect interstate commerce. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron All the rest shld B left 2 the states. If Mass wants socialized medicine, gr8. If Wyo doesn't, that's whr I'll live. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron States shld B allowed 2 decide 4 themselves & if their systems fail ppl will leave. If they succeed people will come #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Our minority has consistently won out, starting with a constitution that guarantees individual liberty #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Those private insurers were created to fill a niche attracting and retaining a good workforce. Consumer demand at work. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Not a perfect system, but a system that has allowed millions 2 obtain care they wouldn't have bn able 2 afford otherwise #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron I want people to succeed individually on their own merits. The more that succeed, the more society benefits. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @badtux99 As I said – lies, damned lies & statistics. It's all in how U read them. giv me my individual rights over inferentials any day in reply to badtux99 #
• @jfelectron What you see as empowerment, I see as shackling. It is a basic difference of view that we'll probably never bridge. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron I've never tried to win against those I compete with in business. I'll gladly take second in a race to success. in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron I just have no desire to win a race to failure. in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron And socialism justs changes the power structure from one group to another. in reply to jfelectron #
• @badtux99 A very baiting question. The answer is no. The reasons are more complex than 140c allows. in reply to badtux99 #
• @jfelectron You're the atheist. Darwinism is only good for the propagation of historic species? in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron My point is that I believe I DO have individual determinism, & dont wnt 2 lose more of it 2 yet another social prgrm. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Ethics is subjective-Sporting hunter wnt shoot a bird on the ground-hunter who must feed their family will. Both R ethical #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @badtux99 Like I said, baiting question. Without a free will, life is meaningless. E.g., If you have no free will, what use is life? #tcot in reply to badtux99 #
• @jfelectron The only power I claim is that over my own life. The ultimate embodiment of elitism is the desire 4 power over others #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @coryc17 Just answering someones baited question. in reply to coryc17 #
• @jfelectron Faculty chats at Berkeley isn't the real world. U shld rlly come out & C how the real world works. It's not a test tube. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @coryc17 follow the thread in reply to coryc17 #
• @badtux99 River rock is no more useless than a venus flytrap. Both useful. Neither has free will which is wht gives human life meaning #tcot in reply to badtux99 #
• @jfelectron My point is that it isnt the FED gov'ts job 2 provide it in the US, any more that its the EU's job 2 provide it in Europe #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @badtux99 No-It is the lack of free will that makes it an inanimate corpse. Inanimate corpse still isn't useless though #tcot in reply to badtux99 #
• @badtux99 Your argument is an endless loop. All philosophy and no value. We could tit for tat all day. It's an elitist trap. #tcot in reply to badtux99 #
• @jfelectron Unlike the socialist countries? thr is no "elite control" in france & germany? Just a diff way of determining whos elite #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Yet you think I should choose your system of determination over mine. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Just 4 S&G more ppl started followng me since R conversation started than follow U total-wht's that say abt my minority vu #tcot #
• @jfelectron Half century ago middle class had small home, one car, one telephone, one tv. All subjective, all relative. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Lack of individual reward would stifle individual excellence and achievement. #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Remember w/out the individual achievements of Mantagnier & Gallo U wouldnt even know wht U wr fighting in the lab #tcot in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Wow, when do you work because it seems like no matter what time I get back to my computer, you answer hehe in reply to jfelectron #
• @missingbullet Have U read Mackey's Op-Ed? wht part of it do U disagree w/? Tort Reform? Portable insurance? Cost transparency? #tcot in reply to missingbullet #
• @jfelectron I've actually enjoyed debating you Jon. Far cry from that cretin @danielspengies He just hates everything. in reply to jfelectron #
• @jfelectron Thanks, and you too. Best of luck in your pursuit of a cure, especially. in reply to jfelectron #
• @danielspengies What was that? Are you still babbling? Go cash your welfare check already. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Writing out paychecks right now, including the withholding so the gov't can send u your welfare check leech #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies I'd say that my lowest paid employee eats better than you, but after looking at your pic I think you ate him. #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• Has anyone notice that @danielspengies pretends to be a failure of a comedian/psych student but has really just failed? #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies So that's your major malfunction? No one would give poor Stevie Wevie a job? Is that why you hate yourself so much? #tcot in reply to danielspengies #
• @alienated_one So U will boycott the business he works 4 endangering the jobs of 1000s b/c U disagree w/ some of his ideas? Altruistic #tcot in reply to alienated_one #
• @alienated_one He doesn't solve all of the world's probs in one op-ed, so down with him, his employees, vendors, shareholders etc. #tcot in reply to alienated_one #
• @alienated_one So its okay to be part of the discussion if your an altruistic left wing hack, but otherwise keep your mouth shut? #tcot in reply to alienated_one #
• @alienated_one If that's the case, why would anyone ever offer a differing opinion? #tcot in reply to alienated_one #
• @alienated_one Fair enough. Where do you work? Oh yeah, teacher. You've tried hard to outlaw boycotting public education, haven't you? #tcot in reply to alienated_one #
• Too bad the lack of a free market in education won't allow everyone to boycott the CA public schools, right @alienated_one #tcot in reply to alienated_one #
• @alienated_one Yet still required to fund public schools. That's like you shopping @ Albertsons but still sending @wholefoods a check #tcot in reply to alienated_one #
• @alienated_one Interesting how 90% of your posts are yelling opinions at someone, the rest are bashing people for yelling opinions. in reply to alienated_one #
• @alienated_one You scream it on the internet, and what, hope nobody listens? in reply to alienated_one #
• Wow!thx 4 all the new follows folks?A couple of heated conversations w/ socialists & ive 80 new friends! Promise I dont usually talk so much #
• @alienated_one in reply to alienated_one #
• @badtux99 I'm pretty sure that's not what I said. Good try though. in reply to badtux99 #
• @badtux99 I know you really wanted to make a grand point and all, but I'm not going to make it for you. Spit it out or don't. #tcot in reply to badtux99 #
• @danielspengies stop rewind play stop rewind play stop rewind play in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies I would never GIVE it to them, but I would be happy for them if they did it on their own. Some have. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies I'm sure they appreciate your grand view of them. And you claim I hate them. They don't need your pity. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies I trade resources for resources. No more, no less. Employees do the same. End of the day we're even. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Actually, yes you did claim that. I have a lot of good people who work for me that I consider friends. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies Others, not so. Some have been thieves, some have been worse. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies play stop rewind play stop rewind play stop rewind, your a broken fucking record that played bad music anyway. in reply to danielspengies #
• @danielspengies I'm done trying to explain it to you. You are either too dumb or too hateful to understand. Have a nice life Steve. in reply to danielspengies #
• US run healthcare to be like the USPS? "Your Universal Health Care claim has been denied. You forgot to put a stamp on it." #tcot #
• @badtux99 But I'm not your student. If you want to make a point, make it. Don't expect me to make it for you. #tcot in reply to badtux99 #
• @JustIsland Do you notice that @SocialistJesus preaches that you should value 'workers' but that they are too helpless to value themselves. in reply to JustIsland #
• @JustIsland For @SocialistJesus plan to work, everyone must value themselves less than they value their neighbor. No individualism allowed. in reply to JustIsland #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland I value ppl by trading resources that ive available 4 resources that they've available. wht's wrong w/ that? in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland Constitution provides specific funtions of fed gov't. UHC isn't one of them. in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland Happy to enter in to social contracts with others as long as all are willing. Unwilling participant=slave. in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland No, not taking, trading. Socialism is the mechanism of taking. in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland No, slavery is men worked for the benefit of others without choice of their own. in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland Besides, didn't say I was a slave. in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland You also said "treat thy neighbor…" I don't want my neighbor to treat me like an ATM in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland No one provides wealth in capitalism, it is earned. in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland if sum1 expects me 2 work 2 provide them healthcare & I get bare existence in return, I'm their slave-u said it in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus Ah, now you run away when the conversation gets tough. Typical socialist, eh @justisland? in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @JustIsland @SocialistJesus Could be, but refusing for private would still obligate me to fund the public. I would be giving with no return. in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland I didn't call myself a slave. You did by your definition of the word. in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland Not by any representative of my state. And constitution leaves that power to the state, not the fed. in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland U preach as if U're Jesus, but Jesus preached self determination through free will-U preach service 2 collective in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland Many Christian religions deny healthcare. Would you force their cooperation in your socialized healthcare plan? in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland It is only greed that motivates 46 mil to expect someone else to provide ithem healtchare for nothing in return in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @SocialistJesus @JustIsland Falling out of character there Fidel. Or should I say inFidel. in reply to SocialistJesus #
• @page_1215 15,999 of which prob never shopped there in the first place #tcot in reply to page_1215 #
• Boycott the known employer of anyone who tweets support of #boycottwholefoods! Research and post on #tcot! #
• Irony: I get an e-mail from NetSol selling "Reliable Website Security". A letter in mail same day apologizing 4 a massive security breach. #
• @CoW_mAn supports #boycottwholefoods – complains on his blog about care he gets in canada http://bit.ly/Sh5nm Hypocrisy? You decide. #tcot #
• @erikalisting Nope. Just give you a funny look and hand you your receipt. in reply to erikalisting #
• @markeros what. a. piece. of. carbon. waste. #tcot in reply to markeros #
• @Cynicor More insane than boycotting Mackey's employer for his honest opinions and suggestions? Hypocrite. #tcot in reply to Cynicor #
• @Cynicor So that means if he gives an opinion contradicting yours, it's okay 2 threaten his job & that of the clerks who work thr? #tcot in reply to Cynicor #
• @Cynicor Tit for tat. When we threaten you with your own tactics, you call us bad guys. Hypocrite. #tcot in reply to Cynicor #
• This hypocrite @Cynicor is trying to threaten free speech of individuals by threatening their jobs. #tcot #
• @Cynicor Don't need to track them down. They post an op-ed, or a tweet, or a blog post that threatens a boycott, we boycott them back. #tcot #
• @Cynicor Don't have to track them down. People post it publicly, public gets to use the information. Individual responsibility-Love it #tcot #
• @Cynicor Funny, show me where he said, "I'm John Mackey, representing Whole Foods, and I'm against anyone having healthcare!" #tcot #
• If you speak out against gov't health control @Cynicor will boycott your company! Tit for tat hypocrite. #tcot #
• @Shannon_Ahern @Cynicor Lovin' it! RULE 12: "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Yes we can! #tcot in reply to Shannon_Ahern #
• Just so everyone is speaking the same language. They aren't proposing National Health Care. They're proposing National Health CONTROL. #tcot #
• I've apparently stirred up the libtards who are trolling #tcot They are calling me all kinds of names. Thats rule 5 right…ridicule? hehe #
• @schnaklefarg Thats y they R so upset I guess.I proposed using their tactics&gates of hell opened & they started bubbling out of the shitter in reply to schnaklefarg #
• @LauraNo @Seriou @Varuka @Shannon_Ahern @Cynicor @SigHolmes @Moody_Loner All sheep. Baaaaaaaaa #tcot in reply to LauraNo #
• @LauraNo You RT'd w/ my name. and entered the conversation. I apologize if I misread your intent. in reply to LauraNo #
• @Seriou Ahh, more ridicule. A little personalization thrown in. Bravo! in reply to Seriou #
• @Seriou Political bitterness and crassness aside. I like the twitter name. Clever and original. in reply to Seriou #
• @Varuka How am I a Psycho? Because I suggest the same tactic you use? Please explain. in reply to Varuka #
• @Seriou Almost serious? I like it & no, I don't think so. I just like a good argument. in reply to Seriou #
• @Moody_Loner Have one, thanks. #
• @Pattytdb It's not cooperation if one party in forced into it. I cooperate with others well, when it's willing. in reply to Pattytdb #
• @Seriou Kilmer should have got an oscar for that role. in reply to Seriou #
• @Shannon_Ahern You do realize of course that Obama taught these rules that you are calling Hating America 101? in reply to Shannon_Ahern #
• @Pattytdb Have you been forcibly flown to Iraq? Actually, Congress did, as authorized by the Constitution. Article I, Section 8. in reply to Pattytdb #
• @Seriou Yeah, I'm just an apparently angry anti-socialist libertarian who writes a lot, argues sometimes, and enjoys good debate. in reply to Seriou #
• @Seriou I find that sometimes I can wade through the muck and find decent people to talk to, even disagreeable ones. in reply to Seriou #
• @Seriou very little patience 4 the ones that seem 2 have no opinion of their own though so I get unnecessarily direct & vicious sometimes in reply to Seriou #
• @sullivanc2 Could be fun finding out hehe in reply to sullivanc2 #
• @Seriou I apologize that I did that with you. in reply to Seriou #
• @Seriou Touche' Actually, tonights rants began with the whole boycott thing. Makes me mad so I proposed the same in reverse. in reply to Seriou #
• @Seriou I've been called a lot of names over the last few days because I don't believe in compulsive collective funding. in reply to Seriou #
• @Seriou But I've also had some great in depth conversations. in reply to Seriou #
• @Pattytdb Yes there were. They aren't a new thing. The country is just not used to conservatives doing the yelling. in reply to Pattytdb #
• @Seriou 140c is so not enough 2 have a fruitful constitutional conversation. the downside of twttr. attracts but doesnt facilitate debate in reply to Seriou #
• @Seriou Take care. Gotta go enjoy the real world for a bit. in reply to Seriou #
• @Pattytdb O plz yourself. Google "united states protest" & 7 of 9 on front page R liberal protests, 1 is a wiki definition, 1 is in peru in reply to Pattytdb #
• Great IBD editorial > The Voters' Option http://bit.ly/2HhVqR #

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